Congress to decide whether Super Congress could impose gun control

Monday, 01 August 2011 12:07
Gun owner registration … bans on semi-automatic firearms … adoption of a UN gun control treaty -- all of these issues could very well be decided over the next 24 hours.

Both houses of Congress will be voting on a debt ceiling bill that establishes a legislative committee with TREMENDOUS powers. Fox News is calling this committee a SUPER CONGRESS, because its legislative proposals (which could include gun control provisions) CANNOT be filibustered or amended in the Senate or House.

To understand what a huge deal this is, consider that House Speaker John Boehner is able to keep a mountain of gun control bills from coming to the floor of the House. That’s the power of the Speaker.

And in the Senate, we have been able to kill much of the gun control agenda by filibustering legislation (that is, requiring the Majority Leader to get a supermajority or 60 votes in order to pass gun control).

The most recent example of this occurred earlier this year when we defeated a radical, anti-gun judicial nomination (Goodwin Liu) using the filibuster. The filibuster has been our saving grace in the Senate, but that could be tossed within the next 24 hours.

Regarding the debt ceiling compromise, here’s what one legislative analyst (inside a Republican office on Capitol Hill) had to say:

Right now, we have limited protection from the schemes of the left – even if they have some Republican support, we have a speaker who wouldn’t bring horrible bills to the floor, and we have the Senate filibuster.

Both of these are rendered moot by the Super committee. There is NO Senate filibuster on the product they report. The Speaker CANNOT stop a vote in the House….

[Hence], 22 liberal Republicans can join the Congressional Democrats and the President in: Closing the gun show “loophole,” banning semi-automatic weapons, creating a national handgun registration, or ordering state gun laws moot.

A super highway for gun control legislation? This is incredibly unconstitutional! We don’t elect a Congress, which can then turn around and elect a SUPER committee. We need to make sure this never lands on the President’s desk.

ACTION: Please email and call your Representative and Senators. Urge them to vote NO on establishing this SUPER CONGRESS with unconstitutional powers.

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  That was my final reply. And i will not repeat. Did not mean to waste your time...i'm sorry WRAM. I was not thinking!

Gunny,

 

Your intel is indeed impressive.  This is what I have come to expect from Marine NCO's.

Precision, and attention to the minutest of details. Well done Gunny, well done!

 

I am particularly interested in their Bravo Company, since it is headquartered in Amarillo.

 

Do you have any particulars on the force level there, as well as their current deployable assets, to include armor, fixed and rotary winged craft, and any offensive NBC capability they may possess.  Also, are there any foreigners or U.N. personnel "training"with, or attached to Bravo company, that you know of?

 

It would truly be a sad state of affairs indeed, if ANY u.s. Marine were to violate the Constitution, their Oath, and the Marine Corps. motto of Semper Fidelis..by EVER turning their weapons on their own people. 

I'm certain that you, Gunny..would be the first to object to that, since you KNOW the meaning of Semper Fidelis, and that it means that the individual Marine WILL NEVER KNOWINGLY obey an UNLAWFUL ORDER, VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION, NOR FIRE UPON THEIR OWN COUNTRYMEN...REGARDLESS OF THE ORDERS GIVEN!  WHEN AN ORDER IS WRONG, AND IN VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION...IT IS THE united states MARINE who will GIVE HIS LIFE IF NEED BE..TO INSURE THE CONTINUING FREEDOM of those who he has sworn an Oath to protect and defend.

 

Semper Fi! Gunny.

 

Warfighter

The gov't wants to control all this so called super congress goes against We The People and their allies the lame stream media will be painting a rosey picture of them and everything that they recommend to do more damage to America. This super congress and these czars should be done away with NOW.

To: Gunny, and Mr. Gauvreau,

 

Gentlemen,

 

I have but one request that I make with the utmost respect for BOTH of you as fellow Patriots, and human beings!  That request is simple gents....with  regard to the ongoing artillery barrage going on between y'all...I am calling CEASE-FIRE!!

 

Folks,  My unit members and I have spent this last weekend in the company of REAL PATRIOTS!

 

These are men and women who GET IT, and have decided that they are all BOUND AND DETERMINED to LIVE FREE REGARDLESS OF THE COST!!   Gentlemen...the folks that I spent this past weekend with are the living EMBODIMENT of what it means to BE A PATRIOT!

 

I was privileged to SEE PATRIOTISM IN ACTION this past weekend, and THAT my friends, was quite a wonder to behold!  THERE WERE NO SUCH EXCHANGES BETWEEN ANY OF THEM, as has been taking place between the two of you.   WRAM IS NOT THE PLACE FOR SUCH THINGS!

 

WRAM is a place for PATRIOTS to share IDEAS, TECHNIQUES, TRAINING SUGGESTIONS, SUPPLY SOURCES...in other words..THIS IS A PLACE FOR CONCRETE, PURPOSE-DRIVEN COMMUNICATION between like-minded, and COMMITTED PATRIOTS.

 

Gentlemen, I question not your motives, as I am NOT your judge, nor am I qualified to be under ANY circumstances.  I am simply a fellow patriot, who has SEEN first hand, the DESTRUCTIVE EFFECT that DISCORD, AND DISRESPECT have on an organization.

 

I am prior service Army SF, and I know the pride that the Gunny feels when speaking about his beloved Marine Corps.  I had an older cousin, who was more like a best friend, and we lost him in Viet Nam. He was Marine Recon, so I know what the Gunny feels for the Corps, because my cousin Rocky felt the same sense of pride, and the same level of commitment to God and Country that the Gunny feels.

 

Semper Fi! and Thank You for your service Gunny.

 

By the same token, I am certain that Mr. Gauvreau has an equal sense of commitment to FREEDOM, and that he may express his feelings, and opinions in ways that may not be familiar, or understandable to all of us.  HOWEVER..those of us who took the Oath to guard Liberty, are obligated by that Oath, to protect the rights of EVERYONE, to hold, and FREELY EXPRESS their opinions in forums such as these, PROVIDED that they ADHERE to the basic rules, and Codes of Conduct established by the admins.

 

These rules are NOT here to bash anyone, or to be overly restrictive.  They are here to INSURE the accurate, timely, and efficient exchange of information that is VALUABLE, and VITAL to the cause of FREEDOM, and to those who have decided to ACT as Patriots. These are the ones who are the DOERS, and not just HEARERS or TYPISTS only!

 

As I said earlier, My unit and I spent the past weekend in the company of DOERS!  These are people whom even the presence of the Texas State Troopers IN FORCE...COULD NOT DISTRACT, NOR DISCOURAGE THEM FROM THEIR MISSION OBJECTIVE!  They CONTINUED ON MISSION, ON TOPIC, without so much as a hiccup in the conduct of the meeting!

 

These folks are LIVING EXAMPLES of the word DETERMINATION!  They are also living examples of the words GRACIOUS, and PROFESSIONAL. I was having a conversation with Minuteman and several others yesterday at breakfast, (which btw was awesome...kudos to Pony Boy, Lis, and all who made it possible) where I made it known to all, that I am a Texian patriot, and as such a believer, and soldier in the fight for a Free, Sovereign, and Independent Republic of Texas, as were those members of my unit that were also present.

 

Gentlemen, let me tell you that I was most pleasantly surprised by the GRACIOUSNESS, and PROFESSIONALISM displayed by Minuteman, and everyone there.  They WELCOMED me, and those of my unit, regardless of beliefs, and in fact, Minuteman brought it all home when he said.."If secession is the WILL OF THE TEXAN PEOPLE once TSHTF...THEN I WILL FIGHT FOR THAT, EVEN THOUGH I PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE IN IT"

 

THAT gentlemen, is a PATRIOT!  THAT is what a PATRIOT DOES!!  Minuteman is a DOER for FREEDOM, and has earned my respect.  He, Layton, Pony Boy, and the rest of the group, welcomed me as a fellow patriot/soldier of freedom..REGARDLESS of my beliefs, and they were GRACIOUS in NOT attempting to CHANGE my beliefs, or shunning me as a participant in the meeting because of those beliefs.

 

They simply said "LET'S ALL WORK TOGETHER TO PRESERVE FREEDOM". 

 

THAT gentlemen..is what WRAM is all about...WORKING TOGETHER so that ALL may LIVE FREE!

 

Gents, let's WORK TOGETHER, with DETERMINATION, and PROFESSIONALISM, so that ALL MAY REMAIN FREE!!  

 

De Oppresso Liber!

 

Warfighter

Greatly written ..!  and Thank you for putting the truth into words, and stopping the bashing of differences. Because that bottom line is, we all want to keep our freedom and try and stop anyone from taking it.
Gunny - there was no insult to you. Thank you for your insight and for your effort in fighting for our country.
gUNNY,   I for one value your experience and your teachings. I agree too that there is and must be limits to what we are required or expected to put up with in the name of tolerance and political corectness or someone's idea of getting along well with others. I believe we should avoid attacking others for their beliefs, culture, or ways while standing firm in the defense of our own values, ideals, culture, and way. All I can add to this that I hope may help clear the air is

GO NAVY ! ! ! :)

Gunny,

 

Thank you for your insight, and the contributions that you make here on WRAM.

 

No one wants to see you go Gunny.  No one here, and that includes me, has anything but the highest level of respect, and admiration for your commitment to the preservation and defense of FREEDOM in this land.

 

You have dedicated your life to being a LIVING EXAMPLE of the Marine Corps. motto : Semper Fidelis.   You have been ever faithful to your Oath Gunny, and for that we all thank you, and respect you.

 

All I am asking is that those on this site who do NOT understand this level of commitment, and dedication to duty, nor comprehend the FACT that folks like the Gunny have unquestionable morality, and are not just robots who follow a program.

 

The Marines are among the most MORAL of service branches, and they unlike alot of us, UNDERSTAND the concept of lawful and unlawful.  Marines are THINKERS, PLANNERS, and have a unique ability to take charge of situations, and turn a normally bad situation, into a victory.

 

The Gunny is one such person.  I would therefore request that in future, if you DO NOT know the history, or culture of the Marine Corps, that you abstain from making ANY comments, jokingly or otherwise.  My father once told me..."It is better to say NOTHING, and be THOUGHT a fool, than to open your mouth (without thinking) and REMOVE ALL DOUBT!"

 

The Gunny, and every Marine that has sacrificed to give US the freedom to be on this site today, deserves our UTMOST RESPECT, and gratitude.  Thank You for your service Gunny!

 

Semper Fi!

 

Warfighter

wit all the utter stuf beaning talked bout whats the storie on the story????

The story on the story is we no longer have a Constitutional Legislative Branch,we now have a bureau,but with a name change,but the colors are the same,and guess what?Seems as though no one even cares.

 

Layton

Apathy Begats Tyranny!!

 Sorry...this SuperDuperCongress BS is a no starter. In other words..just aint gonna happen cause this dog won't hunt!!! Nothing but a so called "Special" committee allowed to kick the can down the road and to had off to a fraction of Representatives with the safest seats in the most liberal of Districts that still love their boy BHO. But...but will only be used as a dirty sneaky way to de-fund our Armed Forces that are still afield while leaving all of their well entrenched "Social Intitlement Programs" un-touched.

 LWyman, what keeps me awake at night is just how close BHO and his handlers are to changing the full dynamics of this Nation just thru (a group prayer is needed here) his next Supreme Court Justice Nominee if it falls within BHO's first (but most likely only) term of office. So it seems there should be a death watch placed on the old and frail Justice Ginsburg who cares less about the Bill of Rights then BHO seems to. And she was allowed a pass on many questions to pressing issues that was dubbed the "Ginsburg Standard" because she just blow them off! In stark contrast to the term the Left who coin a phrase of "Borked" which destroyed a mans character, but who held by far better credentiales. Hold your breath everybody..there would be no recourse, except one! When the Supreme Court is lost...well...games over.  

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