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Permalink Reply by Larry Martz on July 8, 2012 at 4:49pm

Repeat my message in the previous page as if it were written here. In other words, "ditto."

Permalink Reply by Charlie OKDF on July 8, 2012 at 5:12pm

Larry that was a great suggestion, I would be all in.

Permalink Reply by Larry Martz on July 11, 2012 at 10:28am

I have wondered for a good while if the so called "voter apathy" or low voter turnout has something, maybe a lot, to do with the fact that many people think that their vote doesn't count. We know WHY it doesn't count. Rigged software on the vote counting computers turns out the vote count that the bad guys pay for. I glad to know that several on this thread realize this and would put in their work, time, and BRAIN POWER to get a good, honest election. I know of some people who tried to go to court in the past and could not get through corrupt judges and lawyers. Now, I think some things are different. We still have some of those same people working, never giving up, and a BUNCH of new people on the bandwagons and new bandwagons in addition to the old standbys. More on this later!!!!!

Permalink Reply by ETXPatriot (NETP) on July 8, 2012 at 11:55pm

Just do away with the Television shows, Movies, and over priced music industry. Get back to local live theaters for entertainment and problems solved. When all people have is reading books and going to the play or musical down town, then we will see people get more involved.

Right now, too many people are too concerned with the next episode of their favorite DRAMA FEST show on TV, or over hyped barbie and ken dolls wearing next to nothing and grabbing their crotches to give a damn what is happening.

It's pretty obvious when most movies are remakes of something done decades before. Movies and music both are mostly retreads.

How many more comic book movies are they going to make??

Why anyone would pay the amount of money to go watch or hear any of it is beyond me. Total waste of time and money. Especially when most are complaining their losing money from the internet downloads, even though they just bought their what number mansion??

Oh and do away with the Propaganda shows,I mean News programs, too. They don't really report anything other than talking points from an agenda anyway. With the either "cry me a river" or "Aww look how sweet" stories thrown in for filler.

Permalink Reply by Laurie Atkinson on July 8, 2012 at 7:14am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pvr-eN7Eu8&feature=player_embed...!

Permalink Reply by Chancy Yardbird on July 8, 2012 at 7:41am

Hiya Laurie. Cafr is certainly an interesting concept but it's not really another set of book. it is a report that details things that other books or audit reports don't like muni performance and more.

BTW, here's a follow up to how the Stockton bankruptcy proceeding stands and why the CAFR for the mentioned city can't be made public yet.

Hope this helps us come to some agreement on what is real and possible and what is mostly opinion and wishful thinking.

Stockton goes to bankruptcy court
http://weststockton.news10.net/news/news/101429-stockton-goes-bankr...

Permalink Reply by Laurie Atkinson on July 8, 2012 at 9:48am

Timing?

Also there was an error in the link you just posted.

Permalink Reply by David Gagin on July 8, 2012 at 10:20am

Frederick,
Here's what I suspect: any threat of a nuclear confrontation is a straw dog, and Bilious Hillary knows it. They act like they are still in power, roaming about the world trying to raise hell and cause accidents, but it's not really working any more and it shows in her shrieking at the world in frustration and panic. I want to say more on this, but will stay on the side of caution and let it develop as it needs to without me putting my oar in. Having said that, this is my last post on this subject and I'm sure that most will agree that's a relief.
Take care all.
In peace, liberty and prosperity,
David

Permalink Reply by ETXPatriot (NETP) on July 8, 2012 at 11:31pm

Too many people are forgetting their history here.

1929 Stocks nose dive
1932 Stock Market Crashes
1942 Pearl Harbor
1945 End of WW II

Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen, just as 9/11 could have been allowed to happen. WHY???

Pearl Harbor served a purpose, to bring the US out of the Depression by entering the war.

9/11 to implement more Tyrannical Laws and negate the Bill of Rights, final and full suspension of the Constitution.

The next war will be fought not with nukes, at least not on the scale we were indoctrinated with for 30+ years, but with conventional ground wars. How else are they planning to save the economy??

Besides they need to cull another batch of meat from the herd.

I would be more worried about Biological, Chemical, Weather, and Economic warfare than nuclear. That is unless the reptilian aliens in charge decide that the Earth is better off being a wasteland than allowing us Humans to live here.

Permalink Reply by Larry Martz on July 11, 2012 at 12:10pm

I agree with you both (EXTP and Magnus) except that 9/11 was not just "may have been allowed to happen" it was made to happen and the aircraft that hit the buildings were guaranteed by sabotaging NORAD so there would be a cover. Oklahoma City Fed Bldg, 1995, was also an inside job for the same reason (the Ryder truck with ANFO set to explode was also just a cover story for the demo explosives set inside.) The physics of the Ryder truck explosives was such that it would have done no more than blow out some windows. (Search for Brig. Gen. Benton Parton's report on OKC. Chuck Harder put out a video package called "Murder in the Heartland," (I think that was the title) which included something from Gen. Parton.) Also, the 1996 "breakup" at sea of an airliner (was that Pan Am 800?) about 10 miles off Long Island, NY, was caused by an explosion of an aircraft with either 16,000 lb or 16 tons of high explosives that was taken down by US Navy surface to air missiles (SAM's) because US Navy Intelligence was on to them. I heard that a declassified USN document (in 1997) reported on that in 1997. Remember, Admiral Mike Boorda, Chief of Naval Operations was "suicided" in about June or early July of 1996. I don't think anyone who knew anything about Mike Boorda really believes that he shot himself in the stomach. I think Clinton's people were doing a 9/11 in 1996, and Mike Boorda's people stopped it. If my information was correct, most of the people killed in the Pentagon in 9/11 were US Navy Intelligence personnel. Of course, the evidence "on the ground" shows that it was probably a missile that hit the Pentagon on 9/11, and it was FOR SURE not a hijacked airliner. Yes, it is an ongoing series of staged attacks from inside, and, intelligent, informed people know it. That is largely why I think that the arrests that Drake talks about may be in the works, but not like Drake says. The "good guys" (and "good gals") may be reading all these threads to see if we are "ready and willing" to back them up when they are ready to do what they need to do. They need us (maybe) as much as we need them. They are us and we are them. It is a cooperative effort. You know how important civilian support was in WWII.

Permalink Reply by Larry Martz on July 8, 2012 at 4:52pm

I probably haven't read all of your posts(David Gagin), but I think those that I have read were good contributions! I don't think you need to "bow out" just yet.

Permalink Reply by Larry Martz on July 11, 2012 at 11:18am

I still think what I have thought for several months. If the story from Drake about "imminent" arrests is/was true, the dates or timing would not be revealed until after it was accomplished fact. (Is that what you meant by timing, Laurie?) That is for the "safety" of those doing and backing the arrests and to increase the likelihood of success. (Don't tell your enemy that you are doing a surprise attack.) Of course, Drake may have been having some fun with us. Or, like I said before, the military types who may be behind this could be "testing the water" (and us) to see how strongly and positively "we the people" accept and support this idea. (Maybe that is what you meant by timing, Laurie?) In other words, we can't very well be so naive to think that "someone else" should "do it all for us." The question is: "What can we all do to further this along and not put ourselves 'out in front' to be 'picked off like shooting fish in a barrel' when no one else backs us up." I'm sure "they" (the "military" that Drake talks about) are thinking the same thing if Drake is not just spinning a wild tale. Also, Drake's story would have to have some appearance of fiction in order to not warn those who would be arrested. It would have to sound like more "conspiracy theory nonsense" to not trigger more serious alarm. It appears that most in Congress and the Exec. Dept. of the US Gov. are worried about something because of the clause in the NDAA and the new statute making it illegal to be "demonstrating" near where anyone who has secret service security is traveling. Can you believe that? At first, I thought they were just concerned about the Occupy Movement, but now I'm not sure.

Also, the clause in the NDAA (arrest US citizens, etc., and the statute to arrest demonstrators near a "protected" gov person) may be a sign of encouragement. If they are that worried, maybe our success is on its way.

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