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The FBI raided what it describes as a paramilitary camp in Osceola County over the weekend. Investigators told the media ten people were arrested on hate crime charges. The suspects are said to be members of the American Front, a white supremacist group. According to WFTV in Orlando, the group “is known as a domestic terrorist organization.”
“WFTV learned that investigators believe the group was involved in paramilitary training that included weapons like AK-47′s and they also trained in hand-to-hand combat for a coming race war,” the news station reports.
The group figures prominently in A Homeland Security Model for Assessing US Domestic Threats and is described by the ADL as a “racist skinhead group that is active in several states around the country.”
The federal government has a documented history of creating racist groups. In 1991, the FBI invented a group called the Veterans Aryan Movement. It was part of PATCON, the code-name for “Patriot Conspiracy,” a government operation that targeted not only racist groups but also “ultra-libertarian” and Second Amendment activists who “have found common cause in their suspicion and fear of the federal government,” according to J. M. Berger.
Under COINTELPRO, the FBI infiltrated the Ku Klux Klan, Minutemen, Nazis, and other racist groups. In the mid-1970s, the Senate’s Church Committee revealed that during the 1960s more than a quarter of all Klan members were FBI agents or informants and many of them acted as provocateurs and actively engaged in violence.
During the trial of the racist radio talk show host Hal Turner it was revealed that he was a prized “national security intelligence” asset who attempted to incite and goad others into racist and violent activity. His code name was “Valhalla” and “he received thousands of dollars from the FBI to report on such groups as the Aryan Nations and the white supremacist National Alliance, and even a member of the Blue Eyed Devils skinhead punk band,” according to The Record.
It is entirely possible American Front will be revealed as another government operation designed to demonize the growing patriot movement, Second Amendment activists, and “ultra-libertarians” calling for the federal government to follow and obey the Constitution.
The raid in Florida coincides with efforts by the government to exploit the Treyvon Martin case and inflame racial tensions as the election approaches. It also represents an escalation of the effort to characterize “right-wing extremists” as domestic terrorists.
We need to be on the look out for any members who are trying to make us look racist or violent. So far there has been either a CI or agent directly involved in almost every militia setup in the past few years.
I agree 100% any freaks who give American patriot militias a bad name in any way need to be banned and on a nation wide watch list to never be able to come back into any militia groups again! If anyone is racist or causing trouble in a militia they are as Un-American as the evil we fought in WWII and the same tyranny we stand against in government now. Clean house and rid the militias of crazy/racist idiots NOW!
Well folks, let us begin. I'm on a couple of boards and would be VERY interested in knowing who these rats/trouble-makers/feds/etc. are. Maybe a simple list with all info we could get?
It gets even worse. These men are under arrest sitting in jail with NO CHARGES under NDAA!!!!!!!!!
I believe we all need to be reponsible in obtaining all the facts that we can before coming to any conclusions on this.
A total of ten people have now been arrested.
They are not being held without charges, the indictment process is well underway.
"Each of them was charged with:
• Paramilitary Training (teaching & demonstrating to other persons the use, application or making of a firearm, techniques capable of causing injury or death to persons)
• Attempt to Shoot into an Occupied Dwelling
• Evidence of Prejudices While Committing Offense
The State Attorney’s Office says the offenses are felony level and criminal charges may vary based on hate crime enhancements. http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/local/050812-more-arrested-on-...
Ok...I see one charge that makes any sense whatsoever...then again, it really doesn't...Attempt to Shoot into an Occupied Dwelling...Shooting into an occupied building is NOT good. But ATTEMPTING? What does that mean exactly? Did some body actually shoot at the building but miss it? What happened?
As far as the rest are concerned, charges such as these would criminalize the very essence of our armed forces training protocols. It is not against the law to make a firearm. It is against the law to make one and then attempt to sell without a manufacturers license. Teaching techniques to harm people could be applied to schools that teach LE officers methods that can harm. It can apply to martial arts schools. Hell, It could even be applied to seminars teaching people how to use power tools. Where does this nonsense stop? Hate crimes? It appears to me that the DOJ pretty mych pissed in their chili on this one when they allowed a gang of Black Panthers, or whatever that goofball bunch are called, to commit terrorist acts against people at voting polls and not even charging them with a crime. The last I heard, the Bill of Rights allows one to exercise their Rights of speaking their mind and freely thinking what they will. When did prejudice become a crime? I see a black panther standing in a public street calling for the murder and killing of whites and white babies...where are the feds on that one? You simply cannot have it both ways...Karma will come back to bite you on the ass. Where are the feds on this ATF fiasco on over 2,500 counts of violating federal firearms laws and weapons trafficing to foreign nationals? Where is Holder when congress wants the records. Where is he at when the courts order the surrender of those records and they simply ignore that order? This shit has to stop somewhere.
That is exactly what they are counting on Chucker. Rattle some cages and the dogs lie low. Scare tactics only. If you boil all of the charges down the end result is that any law cited has by it's very nature be Unconsistutional other than the possible "attempted firing into an occupied building." Being a CW Re-Enactor who wears grey I can tell you that racism is alive and well. I won't tolerate it on my watch. Those Militias and their members who do are simply rogue and not about patriotism. Patriotism, bigotry/racism are mutually exclusive.
I'm not a racist, nor would want such around, but I do have to disagree with "Patriotism, bigotry/racism are mutually exclusive." Yes, with you and I they may very well be, but that doesn't make it so. During the Founding, most people of color were only considered half men. The evolution that all men are created equal, didn't include all men at the time. We've advanced as a civilization since then, well most of us. Patriotism is devotion to one's country, not to men. Philosophical beliefs can have an influence on how one is patriotic, but in the end a bigot can be just as much a patriot as anyone else. There are a lot of people here that slam Muslims, does that keep them from being patriotic? Maybe some people think non-whites are weakening their country and threatening it. They would be patriots to protect their country under that belief. I'm not saying their beliefs are correct, I'm just saying you can be a bigot and not be a patriot. Also you can not be a bigot and not be a patriot. I'm glad that you will not tolerate racism on your watch. That is the way it should be. We do have to look at certain people and groups that take their bigotry to an extreme to where it actually threatens the country itself. Then again we have to look at the fact that if we're really patriots and believe in this country and its founding principles that we must protect the right for people to harbor their own beliefs. We don't have to agree with their thinking, but we do have to protect their right to think that way.
Agreed, and to all of this I would add, "look at the person'a actions", not thier color or belief system. Are they acting in honor, or deceit, integrity comes in all races and belief systems, as well as, lack of!
...we find these truths to be self evident..."all" men are created equal...
I disagree with you. It's true that blacks were looked at as half man and that's what justified slavery.
In their eyes at that time. The mind frame of the way man has changed not the constitution. So if all men are created equal then your at odds with the constitution. Nazis and racists cannot say they stand for the constitution and not accept all men are created equal.
What is all this junk about NSM wanting their own part of America? That is no patriot, not in my book. Maybe you should rethink this subject.