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Permalink Reply by Brian Corbit on June 28, 2012 at 3:36pm

I think obama has already laid the ground work to try to disband the 2nd amendment look at the "fast and furious" investigation it was all leading up to strip the second amendment away. That Holder SOB and the DOJ have just swept it under the rug for now.

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Permalink Reply by Charlie OKDF on June 28, 2012 at 6:50pm

Here is an interesting perspective reposted from FB.

Something to ask your State Governor, Attorney General, and Legislature. Will your State confirm it's already given Soverneignty, in lieu of the following?

Before you look to do harm to Chief Justice Roberts or his family, it’s important that you think carefully about the meaning – the true nature — of his ruling on Obama-care. The Left will shout that they won, that Obama-care was upheld and all the rest. Let them.
It will be a short-lived celebration.

Here’s what really occurred — payback. Yes, payback for Obama’s numerous, ill-advised and childish insults directed toward SCOTUS.

Chief Justice Roberts actually ruled the mandate, relative to the commerce clause, was unconstitutional. That’s how the Democrats got Obama-care going in the first place. This is critical. His ruling means Congress can’t compel American citizens to purchase anything. Ever. The notion is now officially and forever, unconstitutional. As it should be.

Next, he stated that, because Congress doesn’t have the ability to mandate, it must, to fund Obama-care, rely on its power to tax. Therefore, the mechanism that funds Obama-care is a tax. This is also critical. Recall back during the initial Obama-care battles, the Democrats called it a penalty, Republicans called it a tax. Democrats consistently soft sold it as a penalty. It went to vote as a penalty. Obama declared endlessly, that it was not a tax, it was a penalty. But when the Democrats argued in front of the Supreme Court, they said ‘hey, a penalty or a tax, either way’. So, Roberts gave them a tax. It is now the official law of the land — beyond word-play and silly shenanigans. Obama-care is funded by tax dollars. Democrats now must defend a tax increase to justify the Obama-care law.

Finally, he struck down as unconstitutional, the Obama-care idea that the federal government can bully states into complying by yanking their existing medicaid funding. Liberals, through Obama-care, basically said to the states — ‘comply with Obama-care or we will stop existing funding.’ Roberts ruled that is a no-no. If a state takes the money, fine, the Feds can tell the state how to run a program, but if the state refuses money, the federal government can’t penalize the state by yanking other funding. Therefore, a state can decline to participate in Obama-care without penalty. This is obviously a serious problem. Are we going to have 10, 12, 25 states not participating in “national” health-care? Suddenly, it’s not national, is it?

Ultimately, Roberts supported states rights by limiting the federal government’s coercive abilities. He ruled that the government can not force the people to purchase products or services under the commerce clause and he forced liberals to have to come clean and admit that Obama-care is funded by tax increases.

Although he didn’t guarantee Romney a win, he certainly did more than his part and should be applauded.

And he did this without creating a civil war or having bricks thrown through his windshield. Oh, and he’ll be home in time for dinner.

Brilliant.

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Permalink Reply by Show me on June 28, 2012 at 8:16pm

Excellant point Charlie.Can you say....... Tea party. Look what we did in 2010. Throw the bums out.

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Permalink Reply by American Girl says NO CRACKPOTuS on June 28, 2012 at 10:46pm

Thank you for explaining this. I wasn't able to follow it on TV or the internet, yet. I saw a little bit of a clip on BBC while in the McDonald's playroom while my daughter played...I cried. I saw it as a win for the corrupt. But this explanation helps me to see, maybe it wasn't a win, that there was some strategy behind the scenes.
Does anyone else, you other Patriots see this the way Charlie does? I am learning more about our Constitution on Sheriff Mack's Constitutional Posse site, but my learning isn't going as fast as I would like it. So, you all who are more knowledgeable in these areas are a gift to me, to help me to understand. Thank you Charlie, and others who help us learn. I appreciate you all!

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Permalink Reply by Phillip P. Foreman on June 29, 2012 at 2:18am

Oooops didnt see this before I posted the web link. To borrow a "trite" "Sorry Charlie!" {8>{)

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Permalink Reply by Phillip P. Foreman on June 29, 2012 at 2:14am

Here is a perspective I had not considered. Give it thoughtful scrutiny and I'm sure it will make you say, "Hmmmmmmm"..... http://www.ijreview.com/2012/06/9398-why-chief-justice-roberts-made...

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Permalink Reply by Show me on June 29, 2012 at 8:12am

I read it .It is basicaly what Rush said yesterday.So there is hope. What we have to do is fire these progressives in Nov.

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Permalink Reply by Charlie OKDF on June 29, 2012 at 4:00pm

Obamacare now invalid because tax bills must originate in House

http://www.examiner.com/article/obamacare-now-invalid-because-tax-b...

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Permalink Reply by Walfred L.E. on June 29, 2012 at 4:31pm

This day will be remember as a point of no return for an "UNLAWFUL",government.From this point forward the "truth be know".It is clear now,that no branch of government(Executive,Legislative,Judicial),respects the "limits of power" restrictions placed on them as enumerated in the Constitution.

To all of them,the constitution is "just a piece of paper",until they need it to impose their "Will" apon us,"we the people"!

The real fight will unfold so,as the government collapses,and one of the branch of government(Executive,Legislative,Judicial),fights(will military backing) for complete control and absolute power(which neither has the right or power too hold).They will pullout the constitution and quote it piecemeal to suit their individual agenda(as usual).

RECOMMENDATION:When the collapse/infighting between branches occurs.A congress of delegates from the various states legislations meet,protected by their respective state militia.And reestablish the constitutional Republic!

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Permalink Reply by Jose A. Rodriguez on June 29, 2012 at 6:26pm

Buy obama care or get taxed. One way or the other you will spend that earned cash and do what the hell the government tells you to do with your income... And they wonder why groups like the Sovereign Citizen Movement continues to grow... I feel like were being bullied...

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Permalink Reply by Show me on July 2, 2012 at 9:10pm

I leared in Grade School, When a bullie pushes you...... Hit Him square in the face as hard as you can, destroy him, make him look like a fool. He will always back off,because a bullie is a coward.

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Permalink Reply by Brenda Spicer on June 29, 2012 at 6:40pm

This is a very good explanation of the verdict for those of us that are not lawyers.

Mark Call News Show

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