Our Strength and numbers- How many troops could we put on the field?

Opsec and all aside, We were wondering how of us are there in the US today. First to define our terms-organized or unorganized, state guards or other? Which groups do we include? Is the NG a militia? Do Inactive reserves count? Not an easy task. We decided that we are looking at the unorganized militia.

We took a shot in the dark, and say that if needed we could field 150,000 unorganized militia troops. That's just a guess but feels about right. Anyone have a better guesstimation, I'd be interested. Ya don't have to be specific, please just estimate-

If 3% is true the we are 9,300,000 strong. ( current population-310 million) 

Why? Patriots are far and few between out here. 9 million is a lot of people, where the hell is everyone?

In case your worried about the feds snooping on us, friends, Ol Davy's got some news for ya'll- They know more about us then we know about each other or them.

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How many are in Idaho?

@Recon,I see you and I are along the same line of thinking, but I will continue to spread the word about working together, even though it may seem useless, we do not really have a choice in the matter, I am not going to stick my head in the sand, I will stand untill I am taken down.

 

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Recon, I know how you feel. It does feel like we are pissing in the wind sometimes.

I heard something once that keeps me going- There are 3 types of people, wolves, sheep or sheep dogs. I cannot be either a sheep or a wolf so I guess I am a sheep dog. 

 I think of the milita movement as a sheep dog. While we cannot change the nature of the sheep, we can keep them from walking over a cliff and protect them from the wolves even though they don't thank us or even like us. It's the wolves that respect and fear us. That's what matters. 

 You can never get all of the people to support any thing. It is very hard to get people to do anything on their own, they have to be led. We must become those leaders and statesmen that we need so badly.

Is worth it? To me yes. Only you can figure that out for yourself, but, if militia is a joke then what is the alternative? We are at war with apathy, ignorance, laziness, greed and just plain stupidity. It is not going to be an easy fight and victory is a long way off.

We must persevere even in the face of what seems overwhelming odds.  

It is a thankless task and very frustrating to watch our nation go through a rough patch but we few, we happy few, this band of brothers, we are the soul of the nation and the spirit of liberty lives in us. We must endure.

 We vote once every 4 years but what do we do the rest of the time? We can't rely on the government to help us nor should we. We were meant to be a free and independent people. 

By organizing and educating people as to the nature of freedom and liberty perhaps we can save a few but we cannot save them all.

How many patriots stood at Lexington and Concord? Not many but they stood their ground and inspired a nation and the world. We can do no less. 

You are not alone, Recon. A lot of us feel the same way. Now get out and train! We, your fellow militia, are counting on you. Keep up the fire Brother!

hey Dixon, my wife was telling me yesterday that the latest news on the "assistance" check will be stopped completely by 01-01-12, that should get the fires going, when those hungry lazy fatasses find out they wont get anymore "free" money they will be up in arms then watch for the Matrtial law and be ready to go.
A healthy dose of cynicism is not a bad thing. But, reality may paint different picture. It's true that there are quite a few people that "talk the talk" but don't "walk the walk". However, when the time comes to rise to action there will be quite a few of us folks standing up for what is right. Bear in mind, that the "militia" movement is new to many people who are now just becoming alarmed at the direction our great country is headed. Many of these people have never had any contact or knowledge of what a "militia" really is, much less the role of militias in American history. Many of the people I talk to are a little bit scared of what their participation in militia activities may yield. Some are concerned that they may get a late night visit from the ATF or FBI. Will they become the next Ruby Ridge? or Waco? Rational or not, these a big concerns for many people. I do believe, however, that as our country slides deeper and deeper in a socialist society, more and more people will rise to the defense of our American way of life. Maybe not with guns and bullets, but with genuine resistance. A grass roots form of organization is a very effective way of communicating the perils facing our nation. The success of such a "model" is demonstrated by the Tea Party Movement. In two short years, the Tea Party Movement has become a political force to be reckoned with. Additionally, the Tea Party Movement is growing stronger every day. 56 Tea Party supported Representatives were elected in the 2010 election. They have changed the course of America's decline, but just by a little. The 2012 election will show the continued effect, if any. Contrary to your claim, there will not always be a welfare check in the mail. The current rate of social welfare is not sustainable. When the welfare checks stop or food gets too expensive, than the brown stuff will hit the fan. There will be rioting and looting. Case in point, look at what happened in Wisconsin when union members were asked to give up some of their health care benefits. The state house was invaded and trashed. Now, imagine the same type of activity on a much grander scale occcuring across the nation. Law enforcement, as we know it, will cease to exist. Not a pretty sight. Only those those people that have foresight and do the required planning will stand any chance of surviving the chaos. Local militias will be the only credible line of defense. Personally, I hope it does not come down to that course of action. If such a scenario does manifest itself, I will be prepared. In the mean time, I am working within the existing political structure on a local or "grass roots" level to short circuit such an event. It is my belief that working at the local level is the best way to implement change.
Wait until that 44% can't buy enough groceries to feed themselves and we'll see if they just roll over and accept their new third world status. The 56% will be defending themselves from the 44%. It will be an interesting ride and we better be prepared for it..

If TPTB can keep the dollar from collapsing or hyperinflation at bay (neither of which are under their exclusive control) then maybe the welfare checks will continue to flow. If either or both of those scenarios occur, all bets are off because the U.S. Gov't won't be able to keep up with events, nor will they have the resources to fight with full capability. The people will then be forced to provide for themselves and depending on character, they will band together by community or resort to violence. Either way, the Militia will become considerably more viable and important.

The American people are used to political solutions and violence is the very last resort in most citizens' minds. We will put up with a whole lot as long as the TV works and there is something in the fridge, but let the family get hungry and the power be intermittent on a regular basis and watch how irritable we become.

I hear you and all too often agree, I ‘m not blind, I can see the trends. But here is the way it stands for me; I refuse to live in a Communist society and that is where we are headed in my eye. I plain refuse to take anything from the Government unless I have earned it, like Medicare or Medical. If they try to take my guns (well you know the rest) because basically I don’t care. I just hope I hang around long enough to see some positive changes.

I don't at all disagree with your comment, I just disagree with what you said about the militia movement. In my squad, we take training very seriously our last event we had 5 guys get heat exhaustion cause we were going at it so hard!

 

As far as America, I think you're right, we have become a nation of cowards. I came to that conclusion after I saw a video of muslims stomping on an American flag and shouted "we will dominate you" as people looked on and did nothing...

Now how did you know I was a Kentucky fan? Damned internet.

Not sure what you were referring to but rock on brother!

I still stick 150k active,able and ready militia. Most are just ordinary folks who just are not pissed enough yet. If there were a call to arms I think we would be pleasantly surprised. 

  This is why it is so hard  to get people to show up and get involved. They want to pick a winner. People were very hesitant in backing the first American Revolution. That is why we had to ask the French to help us out during the revolution.Once we had the British on the ropes they joined in. People are just that way. Nobody wants to back a losing side.

 People want to change, they know things are bad. They are sick of hearing it, what they want is solutions. But they need, want, have to be led. Why? 

Responsibility. If they follow a leader they can blame him when things go wrong. That's the downside of leadership. Responsibility.

I know. Welcome to my nightmare.

 http://publicintelligence.net/white-house-strategy-for-trusted-iden...

 

'A secure cyberspace is critical to our prosperity. We use the Internet and other online environments to increase our productivity, as a platform for innovation, and as a venue in which to create new businesses. “Our digital infrastructure, therefore, is a strategic national asset, and protecting it—while safeguarding privacy and civil liberties—is a national security priority” and an economic necessity.  By addressing threats in this environment, we will help individuals protect themselves in cyberspace and enable both the private sector and government to offer more services online.

As a Nation, we are addressing many of the technical and policy shortcomings that have led to insecurity in cyberspace Among these shortcomings is the online authentication of people and devices: the President’s Cyberspace Policy Review established trusted identities as a cornerstone of improved cybersecurity.

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Role of the Private Sector

Only the private sector has the ability to build and operate the complete Identity Ecosystem, and the final success of the Strategy depends upon private-sector leadership and innovation.

The key operational roles within the Identity Ecosystem include: subjects, relying parties, identity providers, attribute providers, and accreditation authorities For each of these ecosystem roles, the private sector will constitute the majority of the actors For example, most identity and attribute providers will be private-sector organizations.

The Strategy can only succeed if the Identity Ecosystem is self-sustaining, which will require the development of business models for each of the service provider roles in the ecosystem Many of these business models will be entirely new, and only the private sector can provide the innovation necessary to realize them.

 

I have thought the same thing.  I live 15 miles from Tijuana and patrolling on the border alone is a bitch. Thank god for my Dog.

Arizona, Texas, New Mexico, and California all need help.

As to how many would step up to the plate? I do not know. All I know is I did. I left Tennessee and moved here to make a stand. Everyone says I am crazy for moving here but maybe that is what it is going to take to get the job done.

The first level of force is presence.

Will you stand in the band like a true minute man?

 

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