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Permalink Reply by George Miller on July 17, 2012 at 11:41pm

7-17-12 Arpaio Press Conference on Obama

Here is the wnd.com report: http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/arpaio-obama-probe-finds-national-security-threat/

 

Ours, written contemporaneously, is below:

 

Intro person warned reporters not to get off topic and harrass the posse, but to focus on the facts of the Obama eligibility findings.

 

Mike Zullo, Chief Investigator,  made most of the presentation.  He continued to build an airtight case that the birth certificate is a fraud.  He lamented that this is not national news. Although he added to the body of knowledge demonstrating Obama fraud, this is not a real blockbuster.  As far as we're concerned, "Obama's"  NOT proven eligibility.

Conflict in the federal coding process for federal statistics vs. putative "birth certificate" image.

Digital forensics indicate document was tampered with. Scanning results would be inconsistent with the results of this apparently fraudulent document.  Over 600 tests performed. We do not believe this doc. could withstand digital scrutiny.

There are also non-digital issues with the document. The strange pencil numeric markings were explained as vital statistics codes.  Ms Verna K.L. Lee, the 95 year old former clerk on the putative Obama birth date of Aug. 1, 1961, confirmed how docs were coded by batch, then sequential, for federal census and other statistical processes. For example, code 9 indicated data not supplied by the parent.  "African" not used by federal govt. as a racial designation. All codes were checked. Some are inconsistent with actual data on the document.  

Hawaii had provisions for registareing unattended births, out of state, or even out of country. There was also a procedure (1955-1982) for registering NON-Hawaiian births on Hawaiian birth certificates, under certain conditions. SA Hawaiian birth certificate, therefore, does NOT prove Hawaiian birth. Kapiolani Hospital has not cooperated in verifying Obama birth.  Many Japanese used this to get Hawiaan b/c's.  Theoretically, a parent had to prove legal residence, NOT citizenship. No time limit. Zullo described the applicable law as "a national security issue."   He recommended Congressional action on this issue. A letter of the time the law was passed recognized the risks inherent in this law, as later identified by private parties and the Maricopa County Sheriff's office.  

Zullo also lamented the media hararassment and unfairness. For example,  a deputy was sent to accompany Hawaii and his cost was billed to the county, with an attempted reimbursement from the posse fund, which was refused (for political purposes). Media jumped all over it, claiming Posse was publicly funded (I don't think there's anything wrong with public funding for this matter of great public interest).

Nagamini refused to confirm that the White House BC image was the same as the Health Dept. file copy.

The putative birth hospital refused to cooperate with the posse and threw them out. There was a handwritten register outside the delivery room at Kapiolani Hospital, which only had about 60 beds in 1961. Zullo unable to secure it from hospital.

Deputy AG says Onaka couldn't talk to them. Deputy AG was "hiding behind statutes," dissembling, hinting it wasn't released, but claiming he has a birth certificate. Refused to confirm or deny that it was the same.

Zullo stated that a document alteration is a forgery. He pointed out that birth certificates are only prima facie evidence.  AZ Secretary of State Bennett accepted what is flimsy, incomplete data, without an actual image of a real document. He said, "as far as we're concerned, this document proves nothing."

 

Obama's birth record should have been processed in the same batch as the Nordyke twins (born in Kapaloni Hospital within a day), if he had been born in the place and time claimed. Newspaper notices were not as systematic and reliable.  Have no other corroborating medical records, not even a baby picture available. "We don't have any reliablle information as to where this event took place." Info on doc. in conflict with itself.

Arpaio: show us the microfilm (of documents).  (This would help confirm event and is very hard to forge)

 

Media Questions:

CBS: How do you expect us to believe anything? You are in business as conspiracy theorists.

More questions about Zullo's background. ullo briefly review experience. Arpaio briefely referred to his 50+ years and challenged anyone to question his qualifications.

If this is areal investigation, why isn't aprosecutor handling it?  Arpaio: About time Congress looked at it. You're going after the messenger.  Look at the evidence.

Why do this investigation instead of sex crimes (allegedly a huge case backlog)?  Arpaio: You don't seem to get your story straight.  

One citizen reporter said if the requested docs were simply provided this would already have been resolved.  

Verna Lee conversation recorded. Zullo: yes, telecon. Her description correlated with Mr. Bennett's description of procedures. Corsi called as a reporter.  

Did you offer any money for info?  No.  

Zullo: Corsi was offered to Sheriff's office. Much info discarded. Sheriff's office brought it to higher level of proof.

Zullo: we identified ourselves as official investigators. Most people did not want to talk to us.

 Media: Are you accusing "Prtesident" of a crime?  Zullo: doc is aforgery. We don't know who did it.

Media: What do you want to happen?  Zullo: maker of the doc brought to justice. We don't even know if Obama knew or where he was really born under what name.

Channel 5 Phoenix: Would you have deputy pull Obama over to check his citizenship?  Refused to dignify it with an answer. Press release and report will follow.

Press release on mcso.org

end of contemporaneous report- 7-17-12, 6:45 PM ET

 

Press release not there last time I checked: http://mcso.org/PressRelease/Default.aspx

 

Here's one of the digital data evidence reports, though:

http://mcso.org/MultiMedia/PressRelease/Media%20Supplemental%20Repo...

 

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source: http://obamaballotchallenge.com/arpaio-cold-case-posse-press-confer...

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Permalink Reply by Wesley Adam on July 18, 2012 at 7:16pm

Anyone know the name of the CBS "reporter"?

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Permalink Reply by George Miller on July 18, 2012 at 7:20pm

Yes!

Tom Ballantyne confronts CBS' Morgan Loew at the Arpaio Press Conference July 17, 2011

Here is a short segment of the fireworks at the beginning of the Q&A during yesterday's Press Conference. The "hit piece" to which I referred in my remarks can be seen here. Please provide this link, and it will give context to what I had to say

Tom Ballantyne discusses Obama's Fake Birth Certificate (7:21)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9--ltL40pxc

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Permalink Reply by Wesley Adam on July 18, 2012 at 7:23pm

Thank you.

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Permalink Reply by George Miller on July 18, 2012 at 7:38pm

Tom is a friend and fellow patriot who has been heavily involved in the movement. He spoke to our Tea Party recently:

http://venturacountyteaparty.ning.com/profiles/blogs/lord-christoph...

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Permalink Reply by Tom Ballantyne on July 19, 2012 at 9:06am

George/All:
Here is the "hit piece" by Morgan Loew of CBS, to which I referred in the video posted below: http://www.kpho.com/story/18996494/conspiracy-peddlers-influence-az...
Here is Joseph Farah's response thereto today: http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/the-real-conspiracy-peddlers/
The truth is, I am an author/speaker, and make a living by selling what I write. My most recent book, in which I take on the so-called "conservative" media, is entitled Oh Really, O'Reilly!  It is available here:  https://www.createspace.com/3673914 as well as at my website.

Tom Ballantyne

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Permalink Reply by MRS MM on July 19, 2012 at 10:24am

Tom, another piece came out today which adds to everything.......the link can be found at:

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=323665

Looks like the pieces of the puzzle are all coming together now.

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Permalink Reply by George Miller on July 17, 2012 at 11:44pm

'IT'S A FAKE'

Conference over. Contention with media. Read press Conference REPORT (archive video will follow)

FOX 10 News - Phoenix, AZ | KSAZ-TV

Sheriff Joe's Obama probe finds 'national security threat'... Calls Congress to move on eligibility...
VIDEO: 'Every document surrounding Obama plagued with problems'...

http://news.yahoo.com/arpaio-obama-birth-record-definitely-fraudule...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/joe-arpaio-birther-probe-_...

more articles on investigation: http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/98546/

Excerpt video:

source: http://obamaballotchallenge.com/media-coverage-of-sheriff-arpaio-co...

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Permalink Reply by Phillip P. Foreman on July 18, 2012 at 1:27am

Nice job with the notes Miller. Excellent summary. {8<{)

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Permalink Reply by George Miller on July 18, 2012 at 3:00pm

If only we could get more people to act on it, we could blow the usurper out of office now!

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