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Comment by Bushmaster on November 23, 2012 at 10:39am

AZ we all know they are coming for them. Hilarrry is the instagator and is working hard to get it passed anyway she can. We nned to just be ready and when they start we need to let each other know about it as fast as we can. Then we will need to figure out what to do about it and when. Is this going to be the shtf senerio and are we to head to the hills or group up as a force? I knw what will happen here if they come before the word gets out. But what will the others do that have time to hide from them or hide there weapons. This is going to be the hardest decisions we will have have to make in this Country.

Comment by Roger L. Martin on November 23, 2012 at 9:18am

That's the whole point of the weapons ban,
leave the people defenseless.

Comment by Wraith on November 23, 2012 at 9:13am

The 2nd amendment wasnt written to protect sporting muskets, it was to prevent idiots like those in power from banning the nation's right to defend itself from tyranny.

Comment by Roger L. Martin on November 23, 2012 at 9:01am

You forgot one of the best long range combat
rifles (M14) M1A. I'm sure they'll want to get
that out of the hands of true American patriots.

Comment by AZRanger on November 22, 2012 at 8:16pm

This is the 2nd part to the below post.

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below),
(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than
10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has:
(i) a second pistol grip,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a barrel shroud or
(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.
A semiautomatic shotgun with:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.
Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General."

Note that Obama's pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event." IN PLAIN ENGLISH THIS MEANS THAT ANY FIREARM EVER OBTAINED BY FEDERAL OFFICERS OR THE MILITARY IS NOT SUITABLE FOR THE PUBLIC.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm

Forward or send to every gun owner you know...
Watch This, If You Want More Proof:
YouTube - CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv3p2lLmjGk

A partial list of gun rights groups:

Gun Owners of America
http://gunowners.org/

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership http://www.jpfo.org/

FREEDOM=GUNS
http://www.tcsn.net/doncicci/freedom.htm

National Rifle Association
http://www.nra.org/

Second Amendment Committee
http://www.libertygunrights.com/

Second Amendment Foundation
http://www.saf.org/

Second Amendment Sisters
http://www.2asisters.org/

Women Against Gun Control
http://www.wagc.com/

Drake | November 20, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Categories: News | URL: http://wp.me/p2tRr3-wr

Comment by AZRanger on November 22, 2012 at 8:15pm

Thought I would forward this info on that I just received! It looks as though the idiots are going to come after our weapons!
‎* * * * * OBAMA'S GUN BAN LIST IS OUT * * * * *

Alan Korwin - Author Gun Laws Of America GunLaws.com

Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did.

Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.

Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity. It's horrific. They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
M1 Carbine,
Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
AR-15,
Bushmaster XM15,
Armalite M15,
AR-10,
Thompson 1927,
Thompson M1;
AK,
AKM,
AKS,
AK-47,
AK-74,
ARM,
MAK90,
NHM 90,
NHM 91,
SA 85,
SA 93,
VEPR;
Olympic Arms PCR;
AR70,
Calico Liberty ,
Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU, Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC, Hi-Point20Carbine, HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1, Thompson 1927 Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable magazine, SLG 95, SLR 95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).
Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
Calico M-110,
MAC-10,
MAC-11, or MPA3,
Olympic Arms OA,
TEC-9,
TEC-DC9,
TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
Uzi.
Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
Armscor 30 BG,
SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
Striker 12,
Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm

Part 1 of 2

Comment by CPT Walls (AZ) on November 13, 2012 at 1:07pm

I agree Roger. Let's set something up for the beginning of next month. I can commit Thursday December the 6th if anyone else is game; though I think ComSec and OpSec should be maintained.

Comment by Roger L. Martin on November 12, 2012 at 5:34pm

We need to get a meet and greet in the Tucson area. The groups from around here need to get acquainted.
After all, we are pretty close to the border action here.

Comment by Ronald R Harders on November 12, 2012 at 4:55pm

The meeting is at 7 PM 3375 E Shea Blvd. Phoenix. Leave your egos at home fellas, we have a nation to recover.

Comment by Sequoia on November 12, 2012 at 9:54am

PreacherAZ and Walls, I have sent the both of you friend requests.

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