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Permalink Reply by Geoffrey Hierholz on November 8, 2011 at 12:25pm

Sounds good. I have almost no body fat and have a real hard time gaining wait so I would have to find a special diet to go with working out. I am more of a sprinter then a long distance as I lack endurance. My weight never fluctuates, its always at 135 which is light for my height. I eat many meals through the day though. I am very active when I'm at work ad well.

Permalink Reply by TEMS medic on November 9, 2011 at 11:01am

Try high weight, low rep work. IE squats 6 reps by 3 sets, dead lifts 4 reps by 3 sets. The weight should be heavy enough that the last one or two reps of each set is very challenging with the final reps of the final set being extremely difficult to complete with GOOD FORM! Always remember; do it light and do it right. If your form slips, rack the weight, drop several pounds to a weight that you can do easily and practice the form.

Watch olympic lifters warm up and then compete. Their form is exactly the same for both light, warm up sets as it is to their one rep competition weight.

Permalink Reply by Geoffrey Hierholz on November 10, 2011 at 10:19pm

Sounds good. I will have to get some weights and try. So far while I have been out coyote hunting I have been taking heavier loads then need be so as to build some endurance for long distance traveling with a pack on.

Permalink Reply by Specter on November 8, 2011 at 1:16pm

I used to play paintball in the national forest.  There are a few remote areas that could be used for training, but you always need to be careful around the public and obey the laws.  Generally the public tends to be against all hunting/shooting activities in national forest areas even if it is legal.  Another resource to consider is BLM land.

Permalink Reply by Geoffrey Hierholz on November 8, 2011 at 6:45pm

Blm? I can't remember what that stands for.

Permalink Reply by TEMS medic on November 9, 2011 at 10:57am

"Bureau of Land Management

Permalink Reply by Geoffrey Hierholz on November 10, 2011 at 10:17pm

ah ok. I think they lease land for hunting or at least I think I have hunted on their land in the past.

Permalink Reply by TEMS medic on November 13, 2011 at 7:43pm

BLM is basically open rights lands. You can apply for lease to own or lease with some states like Colorado. I am not sure how it works exactly but it involves making a percentage of land value land improvement per year for a period of I believe ten years. As an example, if you can get a lease to own for 10 years on a property worth X amount, the first year you build a cabin worth 5% of the value of the property, increasing the value to X+5%. The next year you drop a well and build an addition making a value increase of 5% of X+5% and so on. At the end of 10 years, as long as you have continued to show a land improvement/investment every year, you can apply to roll the lease into land ownership.

This is how a lot of companies such as Nestle water get into rural land leases for water extraction without having to purchase water rights in Colorado. Can be beneficial to a community as long as the community is ever vigilant and doesn't allow the leasee to wreck the property and bail.

Regardless, BLM, unless otherwise stipulated in a lease agreement is public use land.

The biggest problem with trying to train, especially live fire training on BLM is the fact that it is Public use. If you are using the land in a manner that can be construed as a life or health risk to other potential users then the authorities are going to squash it pretty quick. On the other hand, drills, orienteering, escape and evade and the like I really don't see how they can stop you. Just make sure of your local laws and restrictions first.

Permalink Reply by Geoffrey Hierholz on November 13, 2011 at 11:47pm

Maybe the militias should raise money and buy some for training purposes?

Permalink Reply by Colorado Badger on December 12, 2011 at 2:26pm

Sorry for the late reply on this.

When Colorado Front Range Militia trains we do lots of live fire in the national forest areas.

The further you are from other campers and especially places to fish the better you are.

My advise is find an area and go camping there.  Notice how many BLM, Forest Service or Game agents patrol the area.

Try some gun fire, then try more gun fire, then a lot of gun fire.

In our AO we have never seen any of the agents mentioned above.

When we patrol we treat it as enemy territory and stick to the tree lines and we make sure nobody sees us even though they definitely hear us when we are firing! We usually patrol quietly and with stealth.  An ATV or vehicle or dirt bikes come by we from a hasty ambush position and watch them go by.  Good training.  The one time I got caught by myself and my dog by a civilian hiker asking me what I was doing, I replied, "Oh, I'm with Homeland Security" which is not a lie, because that's what we are.

Another time a Sheriff deputy rolled up on me and another guy and he just told us to play safe.

We try to find a place that is a little out of the way and plenty of good backstop for stray bullets.

Hint, get a bright colored tent and a couple of lawn chairs to set up a fake camp at the entrance of your area to keep out the wandering dirt bikes and other vehicles.

Be courteous to others you do come across and always help those broke down or in need of help and give the Militia credit for helping them.

Permalink Reply by Geoffrey Hierholz on December 12, 2011 at 7:35pm

I was thinking to keep the noise complaints down and to be able to shoot even more maybe using a .22 semi automatic rifle like my modified ruger 10/22. The ammo is much cheaperfor the thousands of rounds we will use. However it would be hard to get used to a real ammo weight for when stuff really does happen.

Permalink Reply by Colorado Badger on December 13, 2011 at 7:30pm

Actually you need to train like you will fight.  That means real equipment.  Part of the training is not only training yourself and your body, but also your gear and weapons.  You don't want to train with a .22 and then in a real battle find out you're not used to your real weapons enough to be effective.

Find a place out of the way, with plenty of backstop and use real weapons with real ammo.

After going to a place several times, you will get the feel if it's a cool place to make some noise.  Just respect the land and don't trash up the place and stay out of sight of other campers and bikers and you should be fine.

It does depend on where you train.  Anywhere East of the Continental Divide is most likely private property.  We train in Park County in the National Forest and we make a lot of noise.  In our area, there are a lot of dirt bike and ATV riders but not many campers.  The bikers pass through and don't see much or hear much.

Sometimes we will go out and hardly fire any rounds because the training of the day requires no live fire.

Also, keep hunting season in the area in mind.  If there will be any game wardens around it will be during hunting season.  It is disrespectful to disturb hunters and their game during hunting season.  Train first in Summer, then in Winter.

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